Questioner:I dont think they give a damn what Asian Americans think. I would say that many Asians would find the BM/AF couples more offensive. I dont like this attitude but this is true. The media still portrayes BM/AF couples. I think the only people they are afraid of offending is the racist white woman. You go to places such as Littleton or Evergreen, Colorado, you would know what I mean. At a cafe, I heard a bunch of twenty something white women complain about the Asian women stealing "their" men. Go to Alabama, Mississippi or Georgia or for that matter any southern state, it is far worse. There you get really racist white female viewers. The producers do not want to offend these racist female viewers by showing WM/AF couples. The only consideration here is the what the white female thinks.

Questioner:One more thing. The movie industry, whether Hollywood or not would not mind matching up white looking South Asian woman with a white man. This happened in Bride and Prejudice where Bollywood actress Aishwarya Rai was paierd with Martin Henderson..http://www.miramax.com/bride/Well, Ms. Rai is close to being, for a lack of a better term, white...so much so, even Stormfront.org was discussing this...http://images.askmen.com/top-99/2006/pictures/aishwarya-rai-pics.jpgThere are other Indian actors who may be paired with white men such as the really white looking Preity Zinta..http://123india.santabanta.com/wallgallery1.asp?catid=1677or for that matter Kareena Kapoor..http://dcealumni.com/gallery/films/kareena-kapoor-wallpapers/kareena_kapoor81.jpgIf these women were paired with African American men it would seriously offend the sensibilities of not just racist white women, but all racist whites as well.

y is everyones so long

what about Asians?

I have a question. Whats wrong with Movies that are produced in Asia? Asians do thrive in the Cinema buisness. Asian Men are lead men in these movies. Bollywood is a giant, second to Hollywood. When I was in India I was amazed at how good these movies were. I bought a great movie called JIZM starring the ultra beautiful Bipasha Basu and John Abraham. Its one of my favorite movies. The only way a movie like JIZM can make it to the US is if Asian suppport it. I see great movies being produced, but no one push these movies to come stateside. Why are Asians in America so fixated with Hollywood? From what ive seen around the world Asians do not need Hollywood to be successful on TV, or in the cinema. Ive seen Asians movies written, produced and directed by Asian filmmakers.These movies are better than 90 percent of the crap Hollywood produces. Over here in Asia they have their own thing going own. In America from what I see its like lets get a Jin in movies like 2 fast and 2 furious 2, or lucy liu trying to be whiter than white, or blacker than black. Dont get me wrong I love Jin. Hollywood does not care who they offend. If Hollywood is going to make a million dollars then they will put a BM/WF, OR whoever if it means a lucrative profit is going to be made. Thats why you see the relationships on ER, Greys Anatomy because the ratings are high. On this one particular chat room I go to the Asian Girls in there cant wait to see whats going to happen next.All the Asian girls in this roon do like Hip Hop dancing and R@B, so if i went to a Led Zepplin Chat room the it would be a different response I guess. Im not an expert on these issues. Me and my Asian wife will be moving to the states soon. Ive been overseas for so long, im not sure what whats going on. I mean I go stateside to visit months at a time, but still. Your opinions would be most appreciated.

foreign films, in general, do not do all that well in the US. There are exceptions of course. Much of that has to do with language or subtitles and other aspects of cultural familiarity. You have to remember that Asian-Americans are still 'American' so that is a big influence on where their 'point of view' comes from as it relates to culture.Hey Raj, i checked out your links. All of the ladies are gorgeous, but I would never 'mistake' them for being of European descent.

it doesnt matter, if your culture is Indian then you should relate to Bollywood. It Doesnt matter if you moved to the states 7 years ago, or a year ago

you have ruled out the idea of having been born here. why does this not exist as an option? what if someone moved here when they were an infant? a toddler? get rational.presenting silly arguments simply wastes time.

Here are the problems with Asian films serving as an antidote to Hollywod - (1) only a very small % of Americans go see foreign films (so most American's impression of Asian males and females will be what they see coming out of Hollywood; (2) perpetuates the "foreigner" stereotype; (3) most Asian-Ams who are born/raised here have little interest in watching "Asian fare" (nevermind the problems with different languages/cultures) - they want to see what their friends see (even young Hispanic Americans have left Spanish networks) - which is why the number of Hispanic male characters on network TV has exploded (does anyone expect black Americans to watch shows/films from Africa?) and (4) Asian-Americans, like everyone else, want to see images of people that they can relate to (that means Asian-Ams and not Asians).

Dontnukeit - The vast majority of Asian-Americans follow “white culture” (the viewing patterns of Asian-Ams don’t differ much at all from that of whites) and many Asian female writers/film-makers usually have a WM love interest for their AF characters (“Joy Luck Club”; “Red Doors”). I’m don’t know if anyone here is offended by the 2 prominent portrayals of AF/BM couples (I’m not) – but the problem rather has to do with Hollywood making same-race couples the norm with the exception of Asians. So the problem isn’t the portrayal of AF/BM per se – but rather that such a portrayal (which is a small %) is more common than that of AM/AF (of course, the other shoe is that AFs have predominantly been paired with WMs - and many Asian-Ams, at least the ones who are aware of such things, would rather see AF/BM couplings than AF/WM).It’s pretty sad when there hasn’t yet been a SINGLE Asian-American couple portrayed on television.As for getting more Asians in Hollywood (yes – that will help, but even the ones that are there now don’t have the power to effect much change) – the quicker alternative would be for the Asian-American community to be more vocal (just as the black community had been).Today – you will see many attractive, professional BM characters on network TV (on shows produced by whites for largely a white audience) and the same recently has occurred for Hispanic males (even though Hispanics haven’t really been complaining). The only group this hasn’t occurred for is Asian males (and Asians are the ONLY group where the female portrayals outnumber that for males).You also see a similar pattern with regardst to news-anchors. There are BM (and HM) anchors in many of the local metro markets and in national broadcasts and yet, you won’t find more than 1-2 AM anchors (while there are numerous AF anchors in both local and national broadcasts).Raj is simply wrong with the number of AF/WM portrayals as well as for the “white racist” rational. There have been significantly more AF/WM portrayals on TV than AF/BM (and in film, it’s even more heavily skewed to AF/WM).Plus, there have been numerous portrayals of BM/WF couples on network TV, despite the fact that many WMs, racist or not, would have more of an issue with that than WFs with AF/WM portrayals (eg – the WFs on the dating show that had aired on ABC treated the AF, who only dated WMs, as just another “white girl.” A BF probably wouldn’t have been as comfortable or fit in as easily).

Unlike what some posters have stated - AF/WM couplings are much more prevalent in the media than AF/BM couplings, despite some high profile AF/BM couplings (the reason for the AF/BM couplings is primarily due to the fact that the de facto casting choices in ensemble "racially diverse" casts are BM and AF rather than BF and AM).BM/WF couplings are also very prevalent (and may be the most common IR coupling on TV shows).

A qustioner, deanAll asian are not white, or follow white patterns. When I was in High School Asians had their own little clicks, my best friend was Vietnmese and we had known each other sincesince 2nd grade. His parents raised him to be a Vietnamese in America, not a white Vietnamese in America. A lot of his Vietnamese culture was practiced in his household. There is a difference. I truly see Hollywood has fooled everyone in here. If I see another Asian act, talk, or dress black im going to go crazy as well, SO to a degree you are wrong with the all Asians following white culture, or the vast majority, but I can say enough do. I wouldnt deny that. This comment has nothing to do with Asians, but Black American Culture is the most imitated culture not just in America, but the World. As far as White Culture goes, I dont know what white culture is because all the white dudes try to act black as well. This is not Hollywood, this is what I see everyday. Rinku Sen wrote and article on why are Asians are so obsessed with Hip Hop. Do not let me start with such people as Miss info, Oliver Wang and Jeff Chang.Im Black American, my ancestors have been here for over 400 years and yet we still have our own culture. To say Asians in America do not have their own culture in America and are just white is a little steep dean, but maybe some Asians want to hear that, I dont know. Most of all its about ratings, that what it boils down to. People are looking at this. BM/AF must bring a lot of profit to primetime, they keep prmoting it. money is the key word . Questioner just because someone was born in America doesnt mean they are going to forget who they are, or where their ancestors came from. The arguement was not silly, but valid.

Dean, you hit a lot of my points square on. One that I never see explored or at least I've yet to see any rational response from AFs is the tendency for AFs to look for WMs as romantic interests. I have heard many AMs complain about the issue and I have heard many AFs complain about WMs having an 'asian fetish' and how a good proportion of AFs find this offensive, but the fact still remains that there is a big percentage of AFs that actively seek and make discriminating selections in favor of WM as romantic partners. I would appreciate hearing from AFs as to why this is the case.DontNuke - you are correct, Black American culture (or some subset of it, as it is NOT monolithically 'hip-hop') is very much imitated on a global basis. The amazing and annoying thing about that is these 'others' (the imitators) WANT the 'look' but they don't want the people who are the source. To whit, many AsianAm 'cultures' are very anti-Black. In fact, the 'intensity' of their bigotry often exceeds that of whites.

I went to a High School that had a lot of Asians. I use to walk around and watch all the whites Kids call these Vietnamese kids "Gooks", and everyday after school pick fights with. My friend Kim Nguyn was someone I had known since 2nd grade, but as time went on we lost touch with each other. In 10th grade we started to talk again, but Nguyn had a problem a couple of those good ole boys was bashing his face in every chance they got. Me and my friend was walking home and I Remember a white guy named David, who a lot of black people in the school hated, called my friend out and said he was going to kick his ass, trying to impress his other white friends. I could not understand why out of all these different ethnic groups in my school, Asians were the most targeted by whites. Well if they Came at the Blacks we wouldve kick their assess. To make a long story short I told David that if he fought anyone that day it would be me and any day after if he came at my friend again. This is why my Asian friend does Hip Hop. It was a median to talk about his culture, racism he faced and obstacles he overcame. Ive had a lot of Asians that tell me they had a lot in common with blacks. Ive met plenty of Asians in America that adored Black Americans. When they see my wife is Asians it all comes out. But at the same time I will say there are a lot of Asians that do not want to have anything to do with Blacks and I will admit that. Questioner, I see you are in denial to certain things, but its cool. How can you imtate and emulate someone you hate, Im not getting it. Some Asian Americans are bigoted toward, blacks, but some have shown us a lot of love. Raj are you voting for that Senator from Virginia?, What was it he said about Asians, or Desis. I dont care how much you try to justify yourself, He is the one that looks at you the same way he looks at me. An Asian friend told me that qoute. So A questioner we deal with 2 different types of Asians. Lets just say that

Heres a website of people who may some what differ because they are products of asian/ black marriges. So this could be a relity to them.http://www.xanga.com/groups/group.aspx?id=630573

DontNuke, What exactly am I in denial of? Who am I emulating and imitating? Wno is it that I hate?What are you talking about?

DontNuke, What exactly am I in denial of? Who am I emulating and imitating? Wno is it that I hate?What are you talking about?

Dont –I never said that Asians (and esp. ALL Asians) are white, but that the vast majority in the US follow the same viewing patterns (with regard to TV/film) as white America (these are from studies done by movie studios and the TV networks) – just as the viewing patterns of black Americans is markedly different (I’m not talking about whether Asian-Ams keep any of their ethnic traditions or to what extent).Sure - there are pockets of Asian-Ams who mainly view videos of TV shows/films from their native lands (usually more recent immigrants) or largely follow “black urban culture” – but the majority have the same viewing patterns as mainstream white America (even in Asia – the most popular shows are “Friends”; “Sex in the City”; “Desperate Housewives”; etc.).And while “black urban culture” has become mainstream – saying that everyone is trying to “act black” is going a bit overboard. Rock and country music are still very popular among non-black Americans (and even among some blacks as well).Most whites (as well as Asian-Ams) shop at The Gap, JCrew, American Eagle, Abercrombie, Banana Republic (they should rename BR “Asian-Am Republic” for the no. of Asian-Ams who shop there), Express, Eddie Bauer, Land’s End, Timberland, Ann Klein, Ann Taylor LLBeane, Ralph Lauren, Lacoste, Nautica, Calvin Klein, Kenneth Cole, etc. (not to mention all of the European design houses).Plus, if white/Asian Americans were really into “black urban culture” – their viewing habits would be similar to that of the majority of black Americans (but it isn’t) and the marriage rates of Asian-Ams to blacks would be higher than what it is (about 1.3%).In Asia – there is still a heavy bias against darker skinned people (even in places like the Philippines where there are ethnicities of varying skin-tones) . Otoh, hapas who are half-white are celebrated in places like Singapore and Thailand (where hapas have become mainstays in film and modeling).Asian-Ams really haven’t developed an Asian-Am culture. Most Asian-Ams just try to preserve some of their ethnic culture or don’t care to and assimilate in with mainstream society (plus the differences in Asian cultures and traditional ethnic animosities don’t help either). There are a small group of Asian-Am musicians, artists and film-makers who have produced work with Asian-Am issues/context – but not enough to really say that there is an Asian-Am culture.

Quest –These are generally the primary reasons for this phenomena – (1) the media (from TV, film, commercials, advertisements) primarily show AFs partnered with WMs; (2) the media primarily shows AMs in a negative stereotypical fashion (short, meek, geeky and effeminate a la “Long Duk Dong” and “William Hung” or abusive and chauvinistic); (3) many Asian-Ams have grown up in suburban (and largely white) communities and like all kids – want to fit in and be like their peers (have crushes on teen idols such as Orlando Bloom – there are no AM teen idols in the US); (4) some AFs (as well as some AMs – though not as much) due to the media images – have an issue with self-esteem and identity and dating a white person is seen as the ultimate form of “acceptance” and “belonging”; (5) some Asian parents (particularly mothers) urge their daughters to marry white and (6) some Asian-Ams think that by marrying a white person – that they will have beautiful children (this, btw, is a false belief).

DEAN:http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2001/Dec-16-Sun-2001/business/17638493.htmlhttp://missinfo.blip.tv/file/73253/halfkorean.comhttp://halfkorean.com/hk_star/kay_crystal.shtmlhttp://www.halfkorean.com/halfstar.html

look at this website. On the right is a bunch of names of mixed Korean celebrities. Even I was amazed at how many of them were half/African American. This is not my point for posting this, I think we all would learn something from this site.http://www.halfkorean.com/halfstar.html

Dean,thanks for the post. One thing I have been stupified by is the big 'addiction' to Abercrombie andFitch by Asians and this is after A&F got sued for discriminating against minorities, MANY of whom were Asian Amercian women. It boggles my mind! Are they simply unaware of these issues? It was a pretty big deal, especially on the West Coast.

You guys do know that Korean society looks down upon mixed children (and particularly half-black children)?Which is why Hines Ward highlighted the problem during his visit to Korea.I'm not saying there isn't a % of Asian women (who are seeking foreigners) who go out with BMs due to the hip hop (or economic reasons) - but the majority of Asian women who go for foreigners - go for WMs.Look at the marriage statistics in the US - the % of Asian-Am women married to BMs (whether they are 1st gen or 2nd gen) is about 1%. Likewise for Asian-Am males. (If a large % of Asian-Ams were truly immersed in "black urban culture" - the marriage statistics should, at least, show a % of Asian-Am marriages close to that of the % of blacks in the pop. - 12-13%.)Quest - Unfortunately, a lot of Asian-Ams don't know or don't care and shop at Abercrombie.Even my cousin and her friends (who were visiting from Asia) wanted to shop at Abercrombie, until I told them about the racist t-shirts (they ended up shopping at American Eagle).

http://www.club-b045.com/sub1.htmThis was one of my favorite of many clubs. Im aware of how Koreans look down on mix couples and a little more with those mixed with black. I will admit, Koreans and Blacks are not the best of friends, but niether are Korean and Japanese. My wifes parents did not approve of us dating, but my wifes parents did not of approve her Japanese boyfriend who was a lawyer either. I had all the strikes against me. Im black, in the Military and from America, which they despised. But my wife chose me over them. Like a lot of rebellious Asian Youths that are so influenced by western culture, Black culture leading the way. They are making there own decision. Some Japanese parents are ok with it, but if they are older traditional Japanese like my wifes parents then you are going to have a headache. I dont care if you are black, or white. My wifes parents are in there mid 70s. When the US bomb Japan my wifes father was in his early teens. When Tokyo was bomb I recall him saying he had to jump in one of tokyo harbors to avoid being killed. He lost brothers and Sisters from the raids. My wife mother moved to tokyo from the Nagasaki area. She lost family members from the Nuclear bomb. So I cant blame her parents for hating the US Miltary, but they love our son. He is the world to them. I think Asia would be a real experience for the 2 of you. I dont know whats in the water in Korea, but they keep having a lot of black/korean babies despite the hardships. I know a lot of those couples move to hawaii like Amere Rogers who pic was in that session. I hear hawaii is a haven for BM/KOREAN realtionships

What do Korean and Japanese relationships have to do with this?Korea and Japan really aren't that different. Both have a small segment of the female pop. who seek out foreigners (for a variety of reasons)- however, the segment seeking BM over WM expats is smaller.Are all the Japanese/black American couples deciding to stay in Japan? Otherwise, why would their % of Japanese-Am IR marriages be so low (in comparison to that with whites)?I know a couple of BMs who live in Japan and they constantly remark about how they are treated less well than their WM expat counterparts and about how the images of BMs on Japanese TV tends to be stereotypical and offensive.I'm sure your Japanese in-laws love your son - but that's often the case when grandchildren are born.Japan and the rest of Asia have a long way to go with regards to how they view blacks (aside from the narrow viewpoint of hip-hop culture) - and btw, I have traveled extensively in Asia.

Dean,thank you for your post. I am very aware of the (generally) negative attitude of most of Asia towards blacks and the Korean attitude towards mixed race people and dark-skinned people. I have spent time in various parts of Asia as well. We can all point to various singular circumstances that defy the statistics, but you hit the nail on the head - it would seem rational that IF Asian who were interested in marrying non-Asians (in the US) had no biases against Blacks, that the stats would show a 'mix' of BM/AF and AM/BF marriages close to the population demographics of Blacks in the country - 12 - 13%. But the statistics show a very one-sided slant - 99% of asian women who are married to non-asians are married to white men. The apparant disconnect between these statistics and what prime time TV is 'showing' was what fueled my inquiry on this thread at the start.One thing that does bug me is the consistant 'myopic link' of Black = Hip-hop. It is as if Black Amercians had no 'culture' or discernible identity before hip-hop. There are plenty of Black people that do not wear their pants around their butts; wear outrageous jewelry; put rims on their cars or drink 40s. That is probably what fuels the annoyance of those Blacks who find the typical TV and media representations in Asia offensive. It is unlikely that a Black person working in Japan, Seoul or Beijing for some company is a 'full time b-boy'. This is the same sort of stereotyping that Asian males find offensive in the US media - geeks, domineering assholes and kung fu masters. Even Daniel Kim's characteron Lost had some of that 'I'm the boss, woman!!' stuff laced into his character.Dont - you seem to think I have some sort of 'problem' with BM/AF couples on TV. This is not the case at all. I just am confused as to why there is this recent 'trend' of showing a 'couple configuration' (AF/BM) in proportions much larger than it actual occurance which tends to 'downplay' the extent to which the 'real deal' (AF/WM) is happening? Funny thing, someone cited the Asian girl on that 'Try to find a man' reality show (can't recall its real name) who woudl only date white guys. The fact that she is a 'real' asian woman as opposed to a character played by an actress on TV sort of reinforces my point - Art is not imitating reality. You have only to look on CL's "W4M" page and 'search; under Asian and see how many asian women are looking for exclusively white men. Not Black, not Latino and often not even Asian - ONLY 'caucasians'. That has GOT to sting to many an Asian man.Things happen for a reason. I was trying to figure out that reason.

The truth is that women of all races what men who can provide for them. So I fail to see why any women of any race whould want a black male. He gets all the perks without the responsibility.

Did some black guy break your heart? Sounds like it.

Does your probational officer know your on line.

QuestIm not saying there isnt a lot of Asian women looking for WM. Im just saying there are some that like brothers, I have met some that only date black exclusively. Thats why I can this post to be truthful. Ive lived in 2 Asian countries (not just visited) In Asian, why do a lot of these asian girls take melanin pills to make their skin dark like black people? why do the frizz their hair like afros, or wear braids. Why is the large Asian population walking around with Tupac and Bob MArley shirts and every other famous black popular artist I can think of beside Elvis Presley. If Fillipinos hate dark Skin so much then that like saying they hate themselves. Ive been to Manila and Subic Bay twice. Black have no-culture. Rock N Roll, Jazz, Blues, R@b, and HIp Hop all came from The African American Community. So guys kind of re-think.

Dont,you seem to have trouble getting what I'm saying. In no way am I suggesting that Black people have no culture. What I am saying is that this culture is older, broader and deeper than hip-hop.What I disagree with is the constant 'presentation' of hip-hop as the only 'real' representation of African American culture. I disagree with African Americans that buy into that propaganda. It is untrue, overly restrictive and, in many ways, detrimental to the progress of African Americans and Black people everywhere because hip-hop culture has become so synonymous with 'gangster-ism' which is not a positive identity. It turns a culture into a cartoon - just like 'Shaolin Masters', while honorable unto itself, mocks Chinese culture when it becomes the most common framework in which Asian men are seen. You've lived in Asia, you know how untrue that is. These types of narrrow representations limit the range of humanity that Blacks, Asians and others are seen in.As for those Asian girls that have a 'black fetish' - they certainly exist, but they are in the distinct minority. There is almost always an exception to any rule. Also, just because someone wants to bite on the culture doesn't mean that they want the creators of that culture to move in next door (think of Elvis Pressley and early Rock 'n Roll). To the extent that you are accepted, that is no surprise either. A single individual (as in 'lone', not 'unmarried') is rarely a threat. If you are fluent in Japanese, that is a big help. But let 20 other Balck guys move into the neighborhood and start dating...a different reaction will probably occur.

I speak broken Japanese, but a enough to get around. Its a pain in the but teaching my son english, because he goes to a Japanese daycare. OK, let me explain this Japan to me is like America, but just one race. You have the BM/AF fetish, but at the same time there is a lot marriges between BM/JN over here. You have the WM/JN fetish with marriages the same. Then you have the JN/american fetish which mean they will talk to anyone from America reguardless of color. Japanese females mostly prefer Japanese males over both. It just boils done to what Western Culture the females like the most.Japanese are mostly into Black American Culture at the moment. Quest, you are right it goes past the scope of Hip Hop. When I was talking about my parents resenting me because im black, well they hate white as well and just as much. Japanese parents from the Babyboom period are kinda cool, but if you go past that age then they can be snobbish, at least that is my experience. Maybe in America its a distinct Minority for BM/AF realtionships, but not overseas. Well Japan if you took the BM/JN and WM/JN. White guys are not really winning that battle. I would give BM the edge, or its a close tie. If you add all the African over here that pretty much run all the clubs in Roppongi that would put us over the top by far. Well their are a lot of African over here. I see Europeans to , but from what ive seen, more Africans. Then again this area is so Huge who knows. I mean did you look at that half Korean.com websites. It was just as many Black Korean as white. I dont care what stats say, I just go by what I see. Like I said, Ive seen Japanese girls that actually tried to tan their skin Black. A lot of them

You can’t just go on personal observations, since what you see is often influenced by personal biases and particular situations (if you went to San Francisco and saw a lot of gay men – are you then going to say that 30-35% of the men in America must be gay simply based on your observations?)You can go to any particular nightclub in Korea, Japan, Thailand, etc. and depending on which group they cater to (white or black Americans) – each group will think that Asian women fawn over them. Many WM expats are under the misguided notion that all AFs are after them b/c they go to the bars/clubs where AFs (who seek out WMs) tend to congegrate.The two sub-cultures of Japanese girls (the “Ganguro” and the more tame “Kogal”) are known for rebelling against Japanese norms for feminine beauty (pale skin, raven black hair) and opt for a more “American” look – tanned skin, bleached hair, color contacts) - while a minority of the Ganguro girls may be emulating American BF celebs, the majority of the Ganguro girls (who bleach their hair blonde and wear blue/green contact lenses) and the Kogal girls are thought to emulate the tanned look of white Californian girls.I’m sure there are marriages btwn American BMs and JFs – but unless all of them have decided to stay in Japan (which is highly doubtful) – they should be showing up in the US Census statistics.And just b/c some Japanese are fans of the hip-hop culture – don’t think that the majority of Japanese people have a negative view towards all foreigners, and in particular, to those with darker skin (just as the popularity of the hip-hop culture in the US doesn’t mean that there isn’t problems with regard to racism and discrimination against blacks here).The images of BM on Japanese TV and of blacks in general in the press are still highly negative (reminscent of racist images of BMs in the US during the 40s and 50s).

Im not basing everything off one venue. Ive been all over Asia. Ive been all over Japan. Lived in Japan for 4 years and TAD in Korea for a year. They always throw Census at me. Well I never did a cansus and niether have any of my friends that have Asian wives that lived in the states either. So who does that pertain to. I never said there wasnt any discrimination in Japan, but based on me being black, I never expereinced it. I expereirenced discrimnation as being an American. Ive went to venues with my white friends and they said foriegnors not allowed. A lot of blacks as well as whites integrate themselves in the community and that kills alot of the stereotypes. The only blacks I see on NHK, or Japanese TV is Bob Sapp and that African dude Bobby. They are like Superstars here. I look at Japanese TV as well. The Japanese society is not perfect either. The point ive been trying to make of all this is that this relationship on a international view, not just an American view is possible. I can name some real life stories that descibe this post. So it is fact and make sense

Well thats what the American media and guys like you want us to believe. If you want a lesson on achievements made by AA ill be more than happy to give you that lesson. I can tell you are not the type, You thrive of ignorance and capitalize off the notions of stereotypes placed on minorities in America. Could it be Jeliousy? Its Obvious to see you have no real grasp of American history as well. Yes, you were right to call DR. Carson "GREAT," that he is. Have you heard of the great DR. Charles Drew. The discoveries he made in medecine are milestones and can be topped by few MDs of any color. I can go on until infinity, but why waste time talking to deaf ears. People are individuals first and a race second.Posted by: RELAX at January 6, 2007 01:00 PMOh yes, the great conspiracy against black people perpetrated by the white boogey man. Give it a rest, there are an inordinate amount of black actors portraying doctors, engineers, presidents, etc on television. Just look at scrubs, er, and grey's anatomy, an unrealistic representation of black doctors. As an Asian Indian male should I scream and whine that these programs do not reflect the real world where the percentage of South Asian physicians is ~44%?

Do what you want, I dont care. Just keep your mouth shut and see how far you go.

Relax,I do not hold any bias or aversion towards "blacks", but I do take exception with the propagation of false ideals and assertions. Just analyse your comments, and those of other black men in this discussion. They define their worth by how many women they lay, is this an honourable metric to measure oneself against?

I'm a African American and i love women from India. i think they are fine as hell. Screw all that racial crap!Cause we are all human beings and race should not matter. Is there any girls from India here who would like to marry me? Namaste.... baby!

I beg to differ, but any hoot your beef isnt with me, Im sure you think it is. I didnt start this blog. It was started by Rinku Sen. Sounds like an Indian name to me. Ask her why this subject holdS so much interest for discussion. I wish people like you go to the source and do a better job of hiding your jeliousy.

Well all I can say is I'm a BM and I'm a network engineer, I make over 60K a year. I'm not a womanizer, and I treat all with respect. Most of you seem to believe Sterotypes, and it's sad. In TV/Movies BM are soon as bad people, again it's a sterotype thats all. It's not to be taken at face value.That would be me believing that all Asian know Martial Arts, again thats another stero type...or that cause your asain your good at math. Maybe cause your a asain male you have a small penis.These are all stupid sterotypes. If you want to know about BM then ask one. If I want to know about Asain people I ask. Go to he source and don't let Movies and TV tell you what to think.

It's not an issue of being jealous, it's about projecting/portraying reality.Again, the vast majority of South Asians marry within their own "race" and religion, the numbers don't lie.

This was merely a story contrived to cause controversy because, again, it's an anomaly. I have no need to be jealous nor am I directing animosity or frustration towards you or any black men, but I take exception with individuals,a jaded Rinku Sen included, who say this is a common occurrence within the South Asian community. If you can't face the fact that the majority of South Asian females don't find black men attractive, that is your issue, not mine.

http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=1090Excerpt pertaining to South Asians:People from South Asian backgrounds were the least likely of the minority ethnic groups to be married to someone from a different ethnic group. Only 6 per cent of Indians, 4 per cent of Pakistanis, and 3 per cent of Bangladeshis had married someone outside the Asian group. As well as cultural and racial differences, people from South Asian backgrounds generally have different religions to people from other ethnic groups which may explain their relatively low inter-marriage rate. People who described their ethnicity as ‘Other Asian’ were more likely to have married a non-Asian person (18 per cent).

India, more so than any other society in the world, frowns upon inter-religious, inter-caste, and interracial relationships. This is an obvious attempt at stirring-up controversy and to drive up ratings. I for one could care less about the south asian female/black male dynamic, because in reality it's a complete anomaly, the funnier discrepency comes with the lack of indian/pakistani and east asian male doctors on the program. But who cares, we are out there actually becoming doctors rather than striving to play one on TV.

My favorite movie,KashmiriJatt dont speak for all south Asian women, Denzel could be my husband anydayhttp://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/mississippi_masala/

Lavina,Read my post again. I said the "majority" of South Asian women do not find black men attractive. Also, do you think Denzel is reflective of the average black man? I am sure a lot of women would find a movie star alluring. It's seems as if there is a concerted effort here to mask the truth and project black men as some sort of hot commodity, perhaps in an attempt to convince some naiev women who frequent this site into hooking up with them. Just peruse other Asian blogs and sites regarding this issue and the majority of posters are black men trying to play games.http://www.goldsea.com/Poll/AFBM/afbm.html

Well as a BM, I don't think i'm a hot comodity. Kash I do think your somewhat right. The main thing is Asian women marry other asain or WM. Most seem to look at it as a social thing, instead of a he's a man and I love him period.Well for the statement BM are playing games the correct response are some men do that just as some women do. To single out a race of people for only one thing...thats is racism in it's purest form. Where do u get these reasonings from. Have u dated a AA person. Have you studied there actions yourself or are you just repeating things you've read from other people or have heard from other people.All I'm saying is don't judge anyone you don't know. Get to know the person then judge. If every1 had that logic kash there would be no interracial marriage

Lexx,I don't have any ulterior motives or a hidden agenda, nor am I simply cherry picking statistics to bolster my assertions. I am simply presenting facts. Interracial marriage in the SA community is very limited, not only with blacks, but every race, even within the community itself their are strong demarcations that separate religion, race, and language. Why are people angry or crying racism when I'm merely stating the obvious? I've never dated an AA woman. I would date an AA woman if we shared the same religion and socioeconomic status, but there isn't an abundance of AA Sahajdhari Sikhs, most are either Christian or Muslim, groups with whom I don't have a strong affinity.

I am an African American male. And I have read most of your posts. Here is my 2 cents. African American males do not prefer white women but African American culture is very liberal so race is not largely considered by the men, it is however largely considered by black women in regards to white men. History plays a HUGE part in deciding what is socially acceptable. Let's 1st understand that whites in America outnumber blks 7/1. When we consider these facts we can better understand the bigger picture. White women are also more liberal, considered by most blk men to be "easy" this paired with a blk male aggressive sexual drive gives the perception that blk men like white women, they don't. Black men look for easy sex. Most blk men would prefer blk women or women who look similar. Blk women have really bad attitudes and aggressive tendancies. This leads blk men away from blk women but recently has led blk men toward East Indian women. East Indian women look similar in appearance and are far more docile. Blk men are salivating now at the prospect of dating East Indian women. They are intelligent, similar in appearance, and very supportive. The myth of blk men liking white women is crazy. Blks endures much at the hands of whites. And dating white women poses many more problems than any of you can understand.

OK, point made time to move on.