One more thing: if there were more South Asians in this country, America would become non-white much quicker through arranged marriages.

Man, how many times can this topic be brought up and not be resolved? It's like how America deals with racial topics. An incident occurs, there's massive outrage but eventually dies down, and then it's business as usual until the next incident.In this case, this topic is never going to be resolved until Asian women go out of their way to find Asian men.I also wanted to add that Asian women don't care about this topic because the interracial dating disparity is strictly an Asian male struggle. This is why I don't want to hear Asian women complaining that Asian men don't really care to hear about sexism. It doesn't affect them.The next time you're thinking "why don't people understand me," repeat the following to yourself:"The personal is political."

"In this case, this topic is never going to be resolved until Asian women go out of their way to find Asian men."Or until white women drop their racist attitudes and date at least accomplished and financially secure Asian men instead of white wife abusers, philanderers and murderers twice their age.

it seems to me that AA men won't get very far with AA women if the prevailing attitude is that AA women have to 'find' AA men - this is a two way street and requires mutual effort. Both have to make efforts and to the AA men, get your heads out of your asses and stop being so chauvinistic. Also, it seems pretty clear to me that since white women date and marry black and latino men to a much greater extent than they do with AA men that white women are not significantly more racist than anyone else especiallly AA women...and by the lack of mention of AA men dating black or latino women, AA men seem to be pretty closed minded as well.I think that the stature of AA men would inmprove with AA women and all others if AA men accepted black and latino women as potential partners and made efforts to "complete" their "passes".You're nobody till somebody loves you!!

Actually, when it comes to relationships with black and Hispanics, while Asian women are involved with both groups at a higher rate, it's because their outmarriage percentage is much higher.However, if you compared both AM and AF partners, AMs are 6 times more likely to be married to a black/Latin than AF.Who's racist now?At this rate, it's pretty dangerous as the two biggest groups to be unwed in 2007 are Asian men and black women which is being contributed by AF and BM outmarriage rates. I'm not sure how long it can possibly go on until this issue explodes in our faces.I agree that AF and AM have to meet each other halfway but currently, no one even wants to talk about it at all. Another big problem that causes this problem is that Asian Americans generally are pretty apathetic about community issues. This is another reason why the community has the largest purchasing power yet we still can't manage to movies and companies to stop showing stereotypes of Asians.As I read more and more, almost all the problems Asian Americans face are from our own doing.

I can't seem to dig it up right now but I'll post it as soon as I can.It was on a Ron Paul sponsered website that was written by a white male that asked about the interracial issue in the Asian community and whether or not it was socially irresponsible for Asian women to outmarriage at such a huge rate and for white men to take advantage and "poach" them.He rationalized that this issue is going to cause a huge problem in the next 10 years because it's going to prevent the Asian American community to replicate itself and cause inter community strife (as we can already see brewing) and problems in the country in large (conflict between whites and Asians).What's scary is that a large portion of the responses agreed and only one disagreed.White people.Proving, yet again, that they can actually be more responsible than our own community.

"He rationalized that this issue is going to cause a huge problem in the next 10 years because it's going to prevent the Asian American community to replicate itself and cause inter community strife (as we can already see brewing) and problems in the country in large (conflict between whites and Asians)."Ron Paul is perhaps hoping that Asian American men will not look to Asia for brides and add another half a million to one million non-white brides to this country (plus perhaps their parents). He would very much love to keep this country white majority even if it means conflict between whites and Asians over Asian women. And guess what..the Asian men will meekly stay single and not venture abroad to the Philippines or elsewhere for brides and contribute to keeping white majority just like black women do by not marrying foreign blacks and bringing them to this country.

Ron,I wouldn't exactly go to the bank with sociological studies based on the postings on Ron Paul's website. I suspect that there may be some anti-miscegenation bias showing up there as well.On your comment on outmarriage, first, as I recall seeing some stats last year, the outmarriage rate for Black men is only slightly higher than that for white men - btx 6 - 9% for both; the outmarriage rate for both Black and White women is lower, I beleive 2 and 4% respectively. The outmarriage rate for Asian men is between 1 - 3%, so it is pretty low. This may be skewed by the very very low outmarriage rates for South Asians but I suspect that it is still low.For Asian women (I suspect this stat excludes South Asian women) the outmarriage rate is around 30 - 35%. Of this, the women in this group are in ~98% married to white men.The only higher outmarriage rate amongst women is Jewish women. I think that the data for Latinas is difficult to assess because you first have to parse the data between 'white' Hispanics and non-white Hispanics - A Penelope Cruz would be classified as Hispanic but certainly would have a different social experince than a Rosario Dawson (irrespective of your opinions on who is prettier!) One would be 'perceived' as 'white', the other 'perceived' as 'black' - and from there the game is afoot.In short, AA women in an alarmingly large percentage outmarry and when they do they marry white men. They actively seek to NOT marry Black or Latino men. And they aren't 'perceived' as white so they are not 'passing' as a Penelope Cruz of Cameron Diaz might be able to. They know they are not white and they still try ot make the jump at 7 - 10x the rate of other women.So these stats reveal a couple of things.1 - AA men don't outmarry much at all so analysis of the 'mate' selections of that small outmarry group don't have much statistical weight as regards the acceptance by AA men, in general, of black and latino women. The sample population is too small. No big 'proof' of lack of racial bias amongst AA men. The fact that the complaint is often about the lack of access to WHITE women gives a hint.2 - the outmarry rate of both B and W men being comparable to each other and being relatively close to that of B and W women would support (with a reasonable degree of statistical accuracy) comparison of mate selections - or making some judgements as to what type of person the 'chooser' would choose if the chooser should decide to outmarry. But as a general rule, both groups marry within their respective groups. I beleive that for both goups the 'other' choice is predominantly Latino/a but that may once again be skewed by the white/non-white Hispanic thing. Neither W or B women marry many AA men, but then most women are ASKED and do not do the asking, so...Of the AA men married to B women, I would suspect that the majority are SE Asian. What do you see?3 - white men, while they do marry AA women, don't seem to do so at a rate that is wildly divergent from their general outmarry rate so it would seem that IF there were some mass conspiracy (or AA women induced hypnosis) of white men that they would surely have the numbers to "complete their sweep" and knock AA men out the box. But that is not happening.I think that Ron touched on a piece of it by accident I suspect in his closing remarks "White people. Proving, yet again, that they can actually be more responsible than our own community." I am not agreeing with Ron on that specific point, but in ways alluding to an earlier post that talked of AA 'adoration' of whites - by accepting the idea that whites (in general, not specific white people) might be 'more responsible' you effectively abdicate to whites a 'power' that they actually do not have. You've placed them on a pedestal. Is it any wonder that AA women have too? This is kind of like the "b'wana" idea some of my African friends talk about - the idea of a 'great white father' as the source or solutions to all problems; even if that solution is that white people have to 'cease and desist' some particular action. You must actualize the idea that "it is not 'about' them"!Your existence and identity can never be fully realized if it is constantly framed as a 'not white' identity. This is not to say that you want to be white, but that your identity must be such that it is intact and defineable without reference to white people.Another challenge I see for achieving a greater cohesion in the AA community is that such a community is difficult to define. We have Chinese-American communities; Korean-American communities; Vietnamese communities (not even yet using the 'American' suffix) and so on and so on. This internally driven balkanization while helpful in establishing a distinctive identity does not serve to promote or congeal a cohesive 'Asian American' ethos. The American born can more readily absorb a combined AA mindset because they have probably been subjected to the classic ethnic mis-identity that is common in the US (you're Chinese/Japanes/Korean/ whatever, its all the same thing) which creates a 'common story' that binds and forms the foundation of the group 'ethos'. The constant influx of immigrants from various countries of origin - immigrants who bring with and rekindle their balkanized identities - break apart that 'ethos' because they do not 'share' the story, the experience. Too often, the American born resort to or actively endorse these recatagorizations based on the address of their particular ancestors. This also causes the 'apathy' of the communities that Ron described - which community are you talking about? Why be vigilent about the plight of Hmong immigrants in Minnesota when you are a KA store owner in LA? You wouldn't have 'identified' with the Hmong in 'big' Seoul, why do it in 'little' Seoul?a lot of writing. Sorry about that.

"Another challenge I see for achieving a greater cohesion in the AA community is that such a community is difficult to define. We have Chinese-American communities; Korean-American communities; Vietnamese communities (not even yet using the 'American' suffix) and so on and so on. This internally driven balkanization while helpful in establishing a distinctive identity does not serve to promote or congeal a cohesive 'Asian American' ethos. The American born can more readily absorb a combined AA mindset because they have probably been subjected to the classic ethnic mis-identity that is common in the US (you're Chinese/Japanes/Korean/ whatever, its all the same thing) which creates a 'common story' that binds and forms the foundation of the group 'ethos'. The constant influx of immigrants from various countries of origin - immigrants who bring with and rekindle their balkanized identities - break apart that 'ethos' because they do not 'share' the story, the experience. Too often, the American born resort to or actively endorse these recatagorizations based on the address of their particular ancestors. This also causes the 'apathy' of the communities that Ron described - which community are you talking about? Why be vigilent about the plight of Hmong immigrants in Minnesota when you are a KA store owner in LA? You wouldn't have 'identified' with the Hmong in 'big' Seoul, why do it in 'little' Seoul?"No harm in maintaining their own identity. But, it would be helpful if the men in these communities find a bride back in the country of their parents. South Asian men do it all the time. They dont have to remain bachelors. I am pretty sure they can be introduced to a good Asian woman back in Asia by extended family members left behind. This is what Ron Paul does not want. It would definitely mean half a million more non-white immigrants in the US, perhap three million more if parents are included. Ron Paul would rather have the Asians fight each other and not look into bringing brides from abroad.

I wasn't trying to establish the fact that white society has the power to point out problems in minority communities as if they're always correct but if they can point out dangers and issues that minority communities themselves can't identify because we never want to admit wrongdoing, we have handed them that impression already.Like it or not, it's going to be a big issue in the coming years whether or not the Asian American community wants to admit it.This issue posted on Ron Paul's website is a question and theory, not a definite statement. The debate theorizes that it is socially irresponsible because of the outlined reasons.1.) It hamstrings the growth of Asian America. (This is fairly obvious)2.) It will cause animosity among Asian men which isn't healthy for race relations.3.) It was stated that China faces a huge crisis on it's hands. With the huge disparity in the number of girls and boys being born there, China will have an extra 120 million boys. It has been socially proven that there will be an upsurge in crime. Granted, it won't be as bad here but whenever you have more bachelors than husbands, the crime rate will increase. Or, these same Asian men will leave the country to find wives. If that happens, Asia will already be short a supply of potential women.From the sound of it, the poster is not trying to hinder the growth of Asian America at all. If anything, they're wishing for it to grow, prevent racial animosity, and prevent crime.This is a far more responsible argument.

There are solutions to this:Problem 1.) It hamstrings the growth of Asian America. (This is fairly obvious)Solution 1: Go get yourselves brides from Asia. Singaporean women marry white men. Singaporean men dont sit and complain. They go to neighboring countries and look for brides. This is what Asian American men should do. But, I am pretty sure that Ron Paul is really not interested in that kind of growth of Asian America. Know for sure Tom Tancredo is not interested in that kind of growth.Problem 2.) It will cause animosity among Asian men which isn't healthy for race relations.Solution: It wont cause any animosity if Asian men are willing to marry Asian brides from other countries particularly the Philippines where there are plenty of Asian women to go around.Problem 3: It was stated that China faces a huge crisis on it's hands. With the huge disparity in the number of girls and boys being born there, China will have an extra 120 million boys. It has been socially proven that there will be an upsurge in crime. Granted, it won't be as bad here but whenever you have more bachelors than husbands, the crime rate will increase. Or, these same Asian men will leave the country to find wives. If that happens, Asia will already be short a supply of potential women.Comment: Not underestimating the China problem but this was a problem created by the Chinese.Solution: They have to do what they have to do. Go abroad and find wives."From the sound of it, the poster is not trying to hinder the growth of Asian America at all. If anything, they're wishing for it to grow, prevent racial animosity, and prevent crime."Dream on. How easily you are fooled!!"This is a far more responsible argument."If it is true, it is a responsible argument. But, they dont want the non-white population to grow. That is why Mr. Paul is a member of House Immigration Reform Caucus, a racist bunch made up mostly of GOP members. So please come back to reality.

Dude, can you add at all?When you have a negative number and take from a group that already has a negative, you still lose.The fact of the matter is that in almost all Asian countries, women are outnumbered by men. So, if you fill up the cup on this side of the ocean, it causes other Asian countries to suffer.This causes you to fix one problem but introduce another.

gee, I am kind of sorry i mentioned Ron PAul. He is hardly the basis of this discussion. I ma sure no one means to abdicate to whites power that they should not have, but sometimes it happens inadvertantly and the impact is not felt for some time. The power of subtle messages.Raj, so tell us, do you run a travel agency to take men to Asia? Come on...you can tell us! :-)

Haha. I was thinking the same exact thing.We should get back on topic.

"The fact of the matter is that in almost all Asian countries, women are outnumbered by men."Really? Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Myanmar, the Philippines, Thailand, Indonesia, Malaysia or do you just want Chinese, Korean and Japanese..in other words, North Asian?http://www.britannica.com/eb/question-456399/10/female-population-Philippineshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Vietnam15-64 years: 0.97 male(s)/femalehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Laos15-64 years: 0.97 male(s)/femalehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambodian_people15-64 years: 0.94 male(s)/femalehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Burma15-64 years: 0.99 male/femalehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Malaysia15-64 years: 1.01 male(s)/femalehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Indonesia15-64 years: 1 male(s)/femalehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Thailand15-64 years: 0.98 male(s)/femaleSo, you have your facts all screwed up unless you are focusing on China, Japan and Korea. May be you are not very interested in South East Asian females, Filipinas or otherwise. May be your family will not be too happy if you marry a Filipina. But, these results indicate that you are just making excuses.

Dude, can you add at all?I can and I will show you how to add."When you have a negative number and take from a group that already has a negative, you still lose."Only China, Japan and Korea"The fact of the matter is that in almost all Asian countries, women are outnumbered by men. So, if you fill up the cup on this side of the ocean, it causes other Asian countries to suffer."Not true. Take a look at Male to Female ratio in these countries. They are all under 1!! Surprise!! Surprise!!http://www.indexmundi.com/philippines/sex_ratio.htmlhttp://www.indexmundi.com/thailand/sex_ratio.htmlhttp://www.indexmundi.com/vietnam/sex_ratio.htmlhttp://www.indexmundi.com/cambodia/sex_ratio.htmlhttp://www.indexmundi.com/laos/sex_ratio.htmlhttp://www.indexmundi.com/malaysia/sex_ratio.htmlhttp://www.indexmundi.com/singapore/sex_ratio.htmlhttp://www.indexmundi.com/indonesia/sex_ratio.htmlhttp://www.indexmundi.com/burma/sex_ratio.htmlhttp://www.indexmundi.com/mongolia/sex_ratio.htmlOnly Malaysia and Indonesia have slightly over one."This causes you to fix one problem but introduce another."Actually Asian Americans would be alleviating the male shortage problem if they married women from the above mentioned countries. Dude, dont talk rubbish without providing evidence. May be you think South East Asians are beneath you, or your family may not accept a Filipina or Thai daughter in law, but that is a different story. Good luck. As far as travel agency is concerned, you dont need to go to one. Round trip flight on United to South East Asia is less than a thousand dollars from Seattle and slightly over that from SFO and LAX.

Dude, can you add at all?I can and I will show you how to add."When you have a negative number and take from a group that already has a negative, you still lose."Only China, Japan and Korea"The fact of the matter is that in almost all Asian countries, women are outnumbered by men. So, if you fill up the cup on this side of the ocean, it causes other Asian countries to suffer."Not true. Take a look at Male to Female ratio in these countries. They are all under 1!! Surprise!! Surprise!!http://www.indexmundi.com/philippines/sex_ratio.htmlhttp://www.indexmundi.com/thailand/sex_ratio.htmlhttp://www.indexmundi.com/vietnam/sex_ratio.htmlhttp://www.indexmundi.com/cambodia/sex_ratio.htmlhttp://www.indexmundi.com/laos/sex_ratio.htmlhttp://www.indexmundi.com/malaysia/sex_ratio.htmlhttp://www.indexmundi.com/singapore/sex_ratio.htmlhttp://www.indexmundi.com/indonesia/sex_ratio.htmlhttp://www.indexmundi.com/burma/sex_ratio.htmlhttp://www.indexmundi.com/mongolia/sex_ratio.htmlOnly Malaysia and Indonesia have slightly over one."This causes you to fix one problem but introduce another."Actually Asian Americans would be alleviating the male shortage problem if they married women from the above mentioned countries. Dude, dont talk rubbish without providing evidence. May be you think South East Asians are beneath you, or your family may not accept a Filipina or Thai daughter in law, but that is a different story. Good luck. As far as travel agency is concerned, you dont need to go to one. Round trip flight on United to South East Asia is less than a thousand dollars from Seattle and slightly over that from SFO and LAX.

Raj,wow, that's a lot of data gathering! So an interesting interlude buried in this byte exchange, do I sense either a tendency to view the world thru a singular prism (East Asia, as opposed to SE or S Asia) which our South Asian demographic sleuth takes a bit of an issue with? If such small irritations cannot (or are not) automatically be salved does that make the concept of a conformed and cohesive AA identity hard to manifest? I mean if it is thought that an E Asian family might have trouble with a SE Asian daughter (and presumably son) is it any wonder that an E Asian woman might blow past an Asian man? It is difficult to imagine a person thinking of ethnic groups in a heirarchical manner and limiting that to only certain groups.

"Seems to me that in Singapore the ones really in pain are the racist white expat females who complain about not getting good white males because the Asians seem to take them away."Where are these expat women usually from? If they're from Europe, it sounds like they have an archaic colonial mentality that White women had in the "colonizing" era when they would go with their White diplomat husbands, and looked down on the locals.If they're from the U.S., chances are they are brainwashed by the American media.

"Where are these expat women usually from? If they're from Europe, it sounds like they have an archaic colonial mentality that White women had in the "colonizing" era when they would go with their White diplomat husbands, and looked down on the locals.If they're from the U.S., chances are they are brainwashed by the American media."English speaking generally..mostly Brits and white Americans, but you can also include Aussies. Dont know why..but Canadians and white South Africans tend to be least racist. I am actually very surprised to find a lot of Afrikaaner women married into prominent Chinese families..pretty bizarre!!

"wow, that's a lot of data gathering! So an interesting interlude buried in this byte exchange, do I sense either a tendency to view the world thru a singular prism (East Asia, as opposed to SE or S Asia) which our South Asian demographic sleuth takes a bit of an issue with? If such small irritations cannot (or are not) automatically be salved does that make the concept of a conformed and cohesive AA identity hard to manifest? I mean if it is thought that an E Asian family might have trouble with a SE Asian daughter (and presumably son) is it any wonder that an E Asian woman might blow past an Asian man? It is difficult to imagine a person thinking of ethnic groups in a heirarchical manner and limiting that to only certain groups."Singapore is mostly Chinese as is Malaysia..so we cannot really say that they are different from East Asians. Thais, Burmese and people from Indo-China are clearly South East Asian as are the Filipinos. A Filipino Chinese male who is now an American (actually he came here when he was one years old) told me that his family would disown him even if he brought home a Filipina-American (non Chinese) or any other Asian other than Chinese, but a white woman is Ok. With such attitudes how are they going to compete with white men who have no such hang-ups.

Raj,you reinforced my point. If Asians are inclined to (or condone) discrimination against other Asians then it is only a short drive to acquiescing to discrimination against one's own group.Sing is largly Chinese. Malaysia is most Malay, the Chinese are a minority but a rich minority. Sing and Malaysia are different than East Asia. The English refracted multi-culti of Sing makes it decidedly different from Beijing or Seoul. Malaysia has a different historical arc, influenced by Islam and a different colonial past. The vibe is very different.A person who came to the US at age 1 and is now in his 20s is American. Culture is nurture not nature. You are as you are raised not as your DNA is sourced.

"you reinforced my point. If Asians are inclined to (or condone) discrimination against other Asians then it is only a short drive to acquiescing to discrimination against one's own group."And if Asians are not willing to give women from some of these countries a chance at romance, when they are having a tough time finding brides due to Asian American women marrying white men in large numbers, they are supporting the status quo, ie., white majority and discrimination in the US and allow whites to run all over them.

Confronted with Raj's evidence Ron has disappeared and so has everyone else.

Hi Sak, actually since I don't think AA men should categorically rule out women in Asian countries, there is really nothing to comment about on Raj's last post. We agree at the 10,000 foot level. I do not think that it is likely that in any reasonable time frame Asian Americans will 'minoritize' white Americans simply by marrying and bringing their brides/spouses back. AA's can 'contribute' to the eventual "minoritization" of whites in conjunction with the growth of other non-white populations in this country. But the success of that is challenged by what we have discussed is a underlying racial prejudice that AA's seem to have against other black, brown or beige people. This prejudice creates a barrier against collective political action which would be essential to shifting the racial dynamics.The all too incidious desire to be received/perceived as "honorary whites" makes it difficult at best to establish a real coalition across ethnic groups. At a certain level, the very fact that so many AA women 'seek' white men makes it obvious that they would not be inclined to 'side against' the interests of their mates.

I'm still here but have nothing add as of yet.

"Hi Sak, actually since I don't think AA men should categorically rule out women in Asian countries, there is really nothing to comment about on Raj's last post. We agree at the 10,000 foot level. I do not think that it is likely that in any reasonable time frame Asian Americans will 'minoritize' white Americans simply by marrying and bringing their brides/spouses back. AA's can 'contribute' to the eventual "minoritization" of whites in conjunction with the growth of other non-white populations in this country."Now if the black women in the US of whom about four million are unmarried and are not likely to marry although they would like to marry, look for grooms in Africa and the Caribbean, the day when whites become a minority in this country could be shifted forward to 2030. But, black American women like many Asian American males have a superiority complex towards Africans or the folks from Caribbean and they would rather whine about all good black men being taken by white women than marry one of those foreign students from Africa.

Hmm, Raj, I don't know about that assessment of yours - African American women having a superiority complex regarding Caribbean and/or African men. I think that there is a bit more of that the other way around but I think it is more directed at African American men.So just suppose that African American women went en masse to the Caribbean and Africa and started whisking away the menfolk. Wouldn't this quite likely create a 'man shortage' in those countries? Is that particularly helpful to Africa or the Caribbean? Wouldn't African and Caribbean women fight back?As for the 'black men being taken by white women' thing, while you hear that played up in the media (with famous athletes, etc) from time to time the acutal outmarriage rate for African American men is not that large - under 10% so it is not comparable to the AA women rate. I think you hear more comments from African American women about the economic, educational and social marginalization of African American men that makes them less than ideal spouses. It is more a 'quality' shortage than a 'quantity' shortage.

Actually, there is a woman shortage in Africa.

Raj,what with the history of internal conflicts and the immigration of so many men to North America and the EU for work (and I've seen them in both places) could you please substantiate the 'women shortage' in Africa. And please be geographically explicit - a shortage in Namibia does not equal a shortage in Nigeria.

Look. Why dont you go to websites and figure it out yourselves. I have little time now. I have already showed you men shortage in Asia. Go to any demographic site and they should have it.

The last post was by me. I forgot to type my name in. This blog is essentially for Asian Americans. So, let us focus on it. I dont have much time to research shortage of females in Africa. Here is one example, Nigeriahttp://www.photius.com/wfb1999/nigeria/nigeria_people.htmland Ghana..http://www.ghanaweb.com/GhanaHomePage/general/

Here is some more....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Ethiopiahttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Kenyahttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Ugandahttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_Democratic_Republic_of_the_Congohttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Zimbabwehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Trinidad_and_Tobagohttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Guyanahttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Cameroonhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_C%C3%B4te_d'IvoireSo there are plenty of black men in Africa and the Caribbean for the African American women to go around. But, the question is would they. I think not and this attitude helps the whites keep their majority and thus by default perpetuate racism!!

all you clowns are missing the big picture! the white man is viewed as special-due to his creative genius. you know,that pc you are on right now,invented by whitey! same goes for the tv,radio,phone,auto,airplane,`cheeseburgers and pizza`!!! bwaaahaa! the list is endless my dark brothers. maybe some of you might get your heads outta your arses and do some research on the tribes of JACOB and their blessings from god!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Raj,looking at the stats you dug up, most of the countries are pretty much even with the exception of Kenya, Zimbabwe and Trinidad/Tobago having a slight male edge. Congo and Ethiopia are slightly female. And in no case is the disparity sufficiently large to give Balck American women a good shot at displacing the local females. By the way, if you don't have time to research the stats, then maybe you ought not to cite them so authoritatively (like ethnic Chinese being the majority population in Malaysia). Now currently being in Delhi, there seems to be a lot more young men than young women. But there's no science in my observation.

Well, well, well:Upto you. You can let the white man displace local women in places such as the Philippines or Asian Americans can compete. The white man is going to do it anyway. Pretty lame excuse.

I m an Indian woman an have tried looking for a good indian man for years and finally when i had found one, I was not good enough for marriage, as I didnt come from a well established family or lot of money to my name. I however fell in love with him and accepted a relationship on his terms. After a while i realised my potential and decided to leave him but no other young indian men i met were interested in me as i was no longer a virgin, even though i was well qualified and had a good job and would make a good wi. I decided to try the white men, even though it scared the hell out of me.......I realised, white men had no issues like that. You got what you saw. They were quiet straightforward about it!

I dont think it is an issue for people to date outside there race. I do find it annoying that people feel that women should stay dedicated to the men of their race is really silly and almost comes off as you having REALLY low self-esteem. When people are attracted to the mass generalizations, aka sterotypes, then it is bad. If you like Asian women because they ALL are submissive or Black women because they ALL have an attitude, then yeah you probably have a problem that YOU need to address. It is one thing to be attracted to green eyes or dark skin or curly hair. It is another thing to think that Anime and Mme Butterfly or BET and well everything else on TV make up an ENTIRE group of women. Oh and as a Black woman, I can honestly say that I am attracted to me in general but most the men I am attracted to and all the men I have dated have been Latino or White. I think all that stuff about black women dating only black men is crap, it is a horrible double standard that for some odd reason people plan into and they can keep that crap to themselves.

i don't think the article should be held accountable for the stupid headline.plus, i think this finding is interesting. it could mean that white men will *date* anyone, but won't get into a serious relationship with women who aren't white, or asian.but i think it's also interesting that the asian women in this study are more receptive to white men than other women of color. this particular finding doesn't exactly come as a surprise to me. does it to you?after all, it takes two to tango, and no matter how fetishy the white men may be, if the asian women aren't having it, then there's no hook up.

What should not come as a surprise is the outright racism of white women when it comes to choosing marriage partners. White women prefer smart men subject to the racial constraint. Men in general are more open to dating women from other races. But, women are not and white women especially so. Sadly, recent events in California and Chicago indicate that white women would rather prefer white wife beaters, rapists and murderers even over a decent well qualified well off Asian American University Professor. In one particular case where the white woman has disappeared evidence indicates that the woman in question knew of the guy's checkered past and his ex-wife's suspicious death and yet continued to date and eventually marry and have children with him. White American female racism at its best when it comes to choosing marriage partners.

Old news.I know the article states that they do but if they don't discriminate against white men, that means that they don't have a preference for Asian men. Why do we need "more" studies, Neela ? We've known this for the longest time but Asian women just don't want to admit it for fear of looking like a whitewashed sellout. Hell, I bet if the Lord Jesus Christ descended from heaven and said that it's true, Asian women still wouldn't admit it. God, why is this subject still going on when the answer is right in front of your faces?Someone seriously needs to do a scientific analysis on the minds of Asian women and find out why they don't prefer men of their own race like other women. I'm sure it's not because Asian women are the epitome of being fair when it comes to dating and skin color. The article plainly states that there was a heavy bias against Latinos and blacks.I'd expect interracial dating between blacks and whites to be much higher since Latinos and Asians have a unique culture. If an Asian woman marries a white man, she's more likely to lose her culture as a white man can never replace an Asian man in terms of being Asian American unless he's whitewashed. She's being absorbed into mainstream white culture.I really wish someone would dig through the Asian woman's closet and pull the skeletons out. Enough of these articles that examine what Asian men are doing wrong, let's take a look at what Asian women are doing wrong and why.

Men will marry the woman that meets his expectations of a wife, just as a women will marry for the same reason. Asian women are preferred because of their traits and family orientation and lack of self centred approach. Its that simple.

"I really wish someone would dig through the Asian woman's closet and pull the skeletons out. Enough of these articles that examine what Asian men are doing wrong, let's take a look at what Asian women are doing wrong and why."Still barking up the wrong tree. The problem is racist white women. They would rather end up getting murdered and rotting in some shallow grave somewhere rather than date or marry a decent Asian American male...in fact they would rather date and marry a wife beating raping child molesting older white male who is a married man, rather than date an Asian American male or an Asian male. That is the reality...http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/645671,CST-NWS-Boling12.articleSorry to say this about this white woman, but as you sow so shall you reap!!

That argument doesn't even make sense. There is no telling that she even had the oppertunity to reject a non-white man, nevermind reject him.However, my question still stands.

"I really wish someone would dig through the Asian woman's closet and pull the skeletons out. Enough of these articles that examine what Asian men are doing wrong, let's take a look at what Asian women are doing wrong and why."I rarely read articles that examine what Asian men are doing wrong. In fact, all discussions seem to center on finding culpability with Asian women. Additionally, the linked article did not mention Asian men at all. It also says this: "Women of all the races we studied revealed a strong preference for men of their own race: White women were more likely to choose white men; black women preferred black men; East Asian women preferred East Asian men; Hispanic women preferred Hispanic men. But men don't seem to discriminate based on race when it comes to dating. A woman's race had no effect on the men's choices."How about we consider the possibility that even if there were a "scientific analysis on the minds of Asian women and find out why they don't prefer men of their own race like other women," it might not be to the satisfaction of typical AA discourse. Why? Because an evaluation that didn't skew greatly toward finding fault with AA women wouldn't be PC. Otherwise, we know from the outset that what is being looked for is a report that you can hold in your hands so you can say, "YES! Social scientists agree! AA women DO suck and we finally have proof!"

"That argument doesn't even make sense. There is no telling that she even had the oppertunity to reject a non-white man, nevermind reject him."Hypothetical situation. What do you think would have happened if an Asian guy had approached her at least 95% of the time. Not everybody can be as lucky as astronaut Daniel Tani..and then again she is Irish and he approached her in Cork, Ireland.

"But men don't seem to discriminate based on race when it comes to dating."..and the women blame men for everything connected to racism. Ask those white women why they wont date non-whites, they will blame it on white men in their family. A young white woman from SF said the same thing although both her brothers were married to Asian women..

While I don't agree with the same exact format, Asian Americans really do need to talk about it. It seems we're just covering up a trash fire with a paper bag. The problem will be covered for a little bit but eventually the fire will consume the bag.What do we do then? Cover it up with a bigger bag?That being said, what about the idea that the spotlight could be placed on Asian women themselves. A white friend of mine stated that the reason why white men are so confident approaching Asian women is because since they see so many of them with white men, they believe Asian women are the ones that have a fetish for them.He also mentioned that the reason why this pairing is so popular is because Asian women and white men have a fetish for each other. How much of that is true? There seems to be a considerable amount of Asian women that want to try a white man out before they get married. Is that any worse than a white man that wants to "go Asian" at least once in his life? Have Asian women looked at this issue responsibly and honestly?On the opposite side of the coin, while Asian women state that Asian men never approach them, could it because they've lost confidence due to seeing so many Asian women with white men?Let's post honest questions and get honest answers. They need to be answered.

I have always loved Asian Girls and Women. I hear this about Asian women liking white men, it might have once been valid, but EVERY girl or woman I have asked out says NO. Too many of them still have the attitude that white men are 'barbarians' and won't credit us with any emotions. I think we need to tackle the problem of Asian womens fetish for THEMSELVES. It used to be they would go with an Asian or white male- as long as he 'provided' for them. But now in this puerile, overly affluent'modern society' Asian women have become utterly ego-centric and nihilistic, superficial and stupid. lesbianism is spreading like a cancer in Asia and is completely destructive!Asian women NEED to remember that they need a man, whatever his race. Ying and Yang= Man and Woman

Skot - first off, all those traits you attributed to Asian women as being "utterly ego-centric and nihilistic, superficial and stupid" could be applied to anyone, regardless of race, sex or gender identity. As for your comment on lesbianism, perhaps someone is getting just a tiny bit vindictive after being turned down one too many times. That doesn't give you a license to make such a broad, biased generalization about all Asian women: we're not all superficial. You would do well to examine your own motives first.As for Asian women "needing" a man to "provide" for them, pardon me if we refuse to wear frilly crinolines or submit ourselves to foot bondage anymore. What century are we living in again? Females can make their own dough as they see fit (and I'm not talking about the pastry kind). I don't see males being singled out and mocked for their bachelorhood.ATT: HIMs and TABs (Hot Import Models and Trendy Asian B*tches): please stop representing yourselves as commodified objects ripe for the picking. You're not helping the matter either.